FE1.6 - On Fire pt. 2 "Combustible Communities"

Photo by Ken Meinhart

Photo by Ken Meinhart


In this second part of our two-episode series, On Fire, we look at ways to move our civilization forward – without continuing to deny the role of fire in our landscapes. We discuss how prescribed burns are currently conducted, radical new (and old) perspectives on land management policy, and practical techniques for everyone in fire country to protect their homes, their communities, and their forests.


This episode features, in order of appearance: Bill Tripp, Deputy Director of Ecocultural Revitalization with the Karuk Tribe’s Department of Natural Resources; and Erik Ohlsen, Executive Director of the Permaculture Skills Center, and Founder of Permaculture Artistans.  Erik is also the author of a number of books, including the children’s book The Forest of Fire.

Special thanks to Jose Isordia, Erica Terence, Ilana Fonariov, and Kirsty Johnstone Munroe Cameron.

Our theme song this episode was produced by Forever and Ouri. Other music for this episode was produced by Ben Hamilton, NCTRNM, Cat Can Do, and Sunfish Moon Light.

This season of Future Ecologies is supported in part by the Vancouver Foundation.  Learn more at https://vancouverfoundationsmallarts.ca/.  

A lot of research goes into each episode of Future Ecologies, including great journalism from a variety of media outlets, and we like to cite our sources:

Diver, S. (2016). Co-management as a Catalyst: Pathways to Post-colonial Forestry in the Klamath Basin, California. Human Ecology 44: 533-546.

Long, J. W., Goode, R. W., Gutteriez, R. J., Lackey, J. L., and M. K. Anderson. (2017). Managing California Black Oak for Tribal Ecocultural Restoration. Journal of Forestry 115(5): 426-434..

Ohlsen, E. (2015, September 14). Raging Wildfires in California: Destruction Through Mismanagement (Part 1). Resilience. Retrieved from resilience.org

Ohlsen, E. (2015, September 23). Raging Wildfires in California: Destruction Through Mismanagement (Part 2): Regenerative Disturbances and Building Bridges Across Cultural Divides. Resilience. Retrieved from resilience.org

Parker, L. (2016, August 4). Drones Shoot Fireballs to Help Control Wildfires. National Geographic. Retrieved from news.nationalgeographic.com

Tripp, B. (2018). Integrating Traditional Ecological Knowledge and World Renewal Ceremonies into Fire Adaptation: An Indigenous Stewardship Model. Retrieved from fireadaptednetwork.org

Wirth, C. (2005). Fire Regime and Tree Diversity in Boreal Forests: Implications for the Carbon Cycle. Ecological Studies 176: 309-344.

This episode includes soundscape audio recorded by Andrzej Kozlowski.  It also includes audio recorded by silencyo, MisterLockbridge, blukotek, Hyperionn, lttldude9, Spennnyyy, beskhu, Jaylew1987, ShannonAHonibal, InspectorJ (Rain, Moderate, A.wav), fkurz, JarredGibb,  Reitanna Seishin, Kinoton, Coral Island Studios, lwdickens, and DCPoke, protected by Creative Commons attribution licenses, and accessed through the Freesound Project.

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