FE1.5 – On Fire pt. 1 "Camas, Cores, and Spores"

Photo by Matt Howard

Photo by Matt Howard


The past two years have been the worst fire years on record across the west coast of North America, with whole communities being engulfed in flames and smoke enveloping major cities for weeks. But as the airways fill once again with stories of valiant fire-fighters and people who’ve lost their homes, we answer some burning questions that seem to always fly under the radar. For example:    

How long have fires been burning on this planet?

Have our ecologies always been adapted to fire?

What role did indigenous peoples play in lighting fires in the past?

And how can we return prescribed burns to sensitive ecosystems?

To answer these questions, we talk to regional experts, including internationally renowned ethnobotanist Dr. Nancy Turner, in this first part of our two-part series, On Fire.


This episode features, in order of appearance: Dr. Marlow Pellatt, Ecosystem Scientist with Parks Canada; Dr. Nancy Turner, Professor Emeritus of Environmental Studies at the University of Victoria; Augie Sylvester, Penelakut elder and cultural expert; and Cease Wyss, Indigenous plant diva.

Special thanks to Dr. Natalie Ban, Sarah Friesen, Deblekah Guin, Access to Media Education Society, the Galiano Conservancy Association, Ilana Fonariov, Alex Dundas, Kirsty Johnstone Munroe Cameron, and David Skulski.

Music for this episode was produced by PORTBOU, Radioactive Bishop, and Sunfish Moon Light.

This season of Future Ecologies is supported in part by the Vancouver Foundation.  Learn more at https://vancouverfoundationsmallarts.ca/.  

A lot of research goes into each episode of Future Ecologies, including great journalism from a variety of media outlets, and we like to cite our sources:

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